Comments on: Vignette: A Tavern In December, In Seventeen Seventy-Six http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/ Creative Mung from Eric A. Burns Fri, 01 Apr 2011 15:06:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dragonrose http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-108 dragonrose Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:00:04 +0000 http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-108 This is probably because I'm Canadian, but the first thing I thought on seeing the date "1776" wasn't "American Revolution," it was "Barret's Privateers" <blockquote>Oh the year was 1776 How I wish I was in Sherbrooke now A letter of marque came from the King For the scummiest vessel I've ever seen God Damn them all, I was told we'd cruise the seas For American gold, we'd fire no guns. Shed no tears (Drink more beers!) I'm a broken man on a Halifax peer The last of Barret's Privateers</blockquote> This is probably because I’m Canadian, but the first thing I thought on seeing the date “1776″ wasn’t “American Revolution,” it was “Barret’s Privateers”

Oh the year was 1776
How I wish I was in Sherbrooke now
A letter of marque came from the King
For the scummiest vessel I’ve ever seen

God Damn them all, I was told we’d cruise the seas
For American gold, we’d fire no guns.
Shed no tears (Drink more beers!)
I’m a broken man on a Halifax peer
The last of Barret’s Privateers

]]> By: Alexandra Erin http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-100 Alexandra Erin Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:08:11 +0000 http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-100 "Ineffable" is not really a hard concept to grasp. It means "inable to be effed." “Ineffable” is not really a hard concept to grasp. It means “inable to be effed.”

]]> By: MasonK http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-98 MasonK Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:12:44 +0000 http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-98 Thomas: History is, of course, written by the winners. Darn *straight* the Revolutionaries are often portrayed in the best light. It's the way we're taught in our early schoolhood. You pretty much have to get into higher education before you start seeing the warts. Except on Benjamin Franklin. You learn about his proclivities out in the playground, usually around sixth to eighth grade. Thomas: History is, of course, written by the winners. Darn *straight* the Revolutionaries are often portrayed in the best light. It’s the way we’re taught in our early schoolhood. You pretty much have to get into higher education before you start seeing the warts.

Except on Benjamin Franklin. You learn about his proclivities out in the playground, usually around sixth to eighth grade.

]]> By: Moe Lane http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-93 Moe Lane Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:33:57 +0000 http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-93 "Ineffable?" It's an <i>In Nomine</i> thing, man: you cannot understand. Don't worry, neither can Eric (or me), either. ;) “Ineffable?” It’s an In Nomine thing, man: you cannot understand. Don’t worry, neither can Eric (or me), either. ;)

]]> By: Thomas Blight http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-92 Thomas Blight Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:41:29 +0000 http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-92 You really like the word 'ineffable', don't you? I've seen it crop up quite a bit in your recent work. I tend not to like stories about the American revolution. Just this attitude I have about them ever since studying American history. There's always that older, wizened character, that makes this speech about how they're fighting for freedom and the good people of America and all that... which fits the character of the revolutionaries, but is not the real situation at all (there were just as many loyalists as revolutionaries, and just as many people who didn't give a damn about either side) but alas, it's a little too much to ask for proper representation of both sides in a work of fiction. Plus it would be forced. I just feel it gives such a bloated sense of patriotism. Plus, the revolutionaries are always portrayed as flawless heroes, when this is most definitely not true. (especially the Sons of Liberty, and how the loyalists -and anyone suspected of being one- were treated) But I digress about my personal preference, which has nothing to do with your story. It is a nice little story. You really like the word ‘ineffable’, don’t you? I’ve seen it crop up quite a bit in your recent work.

I tend not to like stories about the American revolution. Just this attitude I have about them ever since studying American history. There’s always that older, wizened character, that makes this speech about how they’re fighting for freedom and the good people of America and all that… which fits the character of the revolutionaries, but is not the real situation at all (there were just as many loyalists as revolutionaries, and just as many people who didn’t give a damn about either side) but alas, it’s a little too much to ask for proper representation of both sides in a work of fiction. Plus it would be forced. I just feel it gives such a bloated sense of patriotism.

Plus, the revolutionaries are always portrayed as flawless heroes, when this is most definitely not true. (especially the Sons of Liberty, and how the loyalists -and anyone suspected of being one- were treated)

But I digress about my personal preference, which has nothing to do with your story. It is a nice little story.

]]> By: Alexandra Erin http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-90 Alexandra Erin Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:55:59 +0000 http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-90 I'm personally more a fan of having the dialogue tell the story and letting a few scant details suggest the environment and the characters. Sometimes the image the readers create for themselves will be more vivid than one painstakingly created for them. And a "long vignette" would just be a "vign", I believe. :P I’m personally more a fan of having the dialogue tell the story and letting a few scant details suggest the environment and the characters. Sometimes the image the readers create for themselves will be more vivid than one painstakingly created for them.

And a “long vignette” would just be a “vign”, I believe. :P

]]> By: kirabug http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-86 kirabug Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:53:38 +0000 http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-86 Nice. It could use a little more description - but the dialogue is spot on. Nice. It could use a little more description – but the dialogue is spot on.

]]> By: Moe Lane http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-78 Moe Lane Wed, 04 Jul 2007 05:17:48 +0000 http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-78 Ruthless old bastard (says he, with nothing but affection and admiration in his voice). Ruthless old bastard (says he, with nothing but affection and admiration in his voice).

]]> By: Faren http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-77 Faren Wed, 04 Jul 2007 04:48:12 +0000 http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/07/04/vignette-a-tavern-in-december-in-seventeen-seventy-six/#comment-77 Quite nice, I liked it. A nice snippet of Benjamin Franklin's life. Quite nice, I liked it. A nice snippet of Benjamin Franklin’s life.

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