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		<title>By: Joel&#8217;s Scattered Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interviewing Leather</title>
		<link>http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/08/07/interviewing-leather-part-seven/#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel&#8217;s Scattered Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interviewing Leather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Glaser</title>
		<link>http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/08/07/interviewing-leather-part-seven/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>Glaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, man. Every single one of these just... just hits me. And this one did it too. I really think you&#039;ve hit something about the nature of the superhero persona that is usually barely touched on.

Also, I&#039;m a sucker for characters like Leather. The whole hidden tragedy thing just gets me every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, man. Every single one of these just&#8230; just hits me. And this one did it too. I really think you&#8217;ve hit something about the nature of the superhero persona that is usually barely touched on.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m a sucker for characters like Leather. The whole hidden tragedy thing just gets me every time.</p>
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		<title>By: MasonK</title>
		<link>http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/08/07/interviewing-leather-part-seven/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>MasonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt; not be knocking &lt;i&gt;Wild Cards&lt;/i&gt;... I know where you live, you know.

But yeah, completely different worlds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d <i>better</i> not be knocking <i>Wild Cards</i>&#8230; I know where you live, you know.</p>
<p>But yeah, completely different worlds.</p>
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		<title>By: roninkakuhito</title>
		<link>http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/08/07/interviewing-leather-part-seven/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>roninkakuhito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t really mean folks who never get involved, I was thinking more along the lines of Mike and Suzie Callahan, or how Harry Dresden wants to see himself, or even a Travis McGee sort. Or Magneto when his plans don&#039;t involve enslavement and or genocide.

Also, yet another reference to Wild Cards... (I first ran across it in an essay by Martin on role playing) I need to hunt down those books</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t really mean folks who never get involved, I was thinking more along the lines of Mike and Suzie Callahan, or how Harry Dresden wants to see himself, or even a Travis McGee sort. Or Magneto when his plans don&#8217;t involve enslavement and or genocide.</p>
<p>Also, yet another reference to Wild Cards&#8230; (I first ran across it in an essay by Martin on role playing) I need to hunt down those books</p>
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		<title>By: Eric A. Burns</title>
		<link>http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/08/07/interviewing-leather-part-seven/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric A. Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some civilian paranormals, and there are some paranormals who are indeed doing &#039;big things&#039; without being heroes or villains, but they&#039;re rare and they tend to get dragged into that world without warning.

One of the areas that&#039;s part of my &quot;internal rules for the world&quot; is that those who are special tend to draw attention to themselves, even as those folks who have superpowers and their own comic books tend to have adventurous lives even if the book is about how they want to live a simple life. Closer, in other words, to a four coloresque world than, say, &lt;em&gt;Wild Cards&lt;/em&gt;. Which is not to knock &lt;em&gt;Wild Cards&lt;/em&gt;, but in a lot of ways that was a series designed to say &quot;what would superhumans do to the real world?&quot; This is more an examination of comic book mores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some civilian paranormals, and there are some paranormals who are indeed doing &#8216;big things&#8217; without being heroes or villains, but they&#8217;re rare and they tend to get dragged into that world without warning.</p>
<p>One of the areas that&#8217;s part of my &#8220;internal rules for the world&#8221; is that those who are special tend to draw attention to themselves, even as those folks who have superpowers and their own comic books tend to have adventurous lives even if the book is about how they want to live a simple life. Closer, in other words, to a four coloresque world than, say, <em>Wild Cards</em>. Which is not to knock <em>Wild Cards</em>, but in a lot of ways that was a series designed to say &#8220;what would superhumans do to the real world?&#8221; This is more an examination of comic book mores.</p>
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		<title>By: roninkakuhito</title>
		<link>http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/08/07/interviewing-leather-part-seven/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>roninkakuhito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hum seems like there should be a couple other categories of potential mates in there, though with her hang ups maybe she isn&#039;t seeing/looking for them.

Eric, are there substantially neutral metahumans in this setting? Especially ones using their powers to do big things without being a hero or a villain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hum seems like there should be a couple other categories of potential mates in there, though with her hang ups maybe she isn&#8217;t seeing/looking for them.</p>
<p>Eric, are there substantially neutral metahumans in this setting? Especially ones using their powers to do big things without being a hero or a villain?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric A. Burns</title>
		<link>http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/08/07/interviewing-leather-part-seven/#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric A. Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really pedantic, no -- it&#039;s interesting and germane. ;)

Really, this comes back to worldbuilding exercises. When one creates any kind of science fiction or fantasy world -- and superheroes are something of a subsection of both -- one must work out the implications and ramifications of that world. Since you&#039;re already violating the laws of nature (among other things, someone as slight as Leather couldn&#039;t get the leverage she needed to use her superstrong muscles in quite the way she is, if we were going to try to be Hard SF about it), you need to decide what the limits are -- and what the prices are.

There has to be a price. Without a price, the world becomes boring. All powerful magi make for dull high fantasy, for example. And instantaneous universe wide transportation and communication has the net effect of taking the universe and turning it into an extension of the New Jersey turnpike.

In the case of Justice Wing, I straddle the fence between realistic interpretations of superpowers and more four-colorish interpretations. I don&#039;t have Leather eating constantly to fuel her greater physical exertions (though I nodded to the need for fuel back when we first met her and Chapman discovered she had tons of complex carbs in her fridge) and I let Leather&#039;s superhuman grace let her counterbalance the places where her strength would fail due to momentum and inertia.

In the case of her musculature, I&#039;m giving vent to one of my pet peeves. I &lt;em&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; like the &#039;conditional super strength&#039; thing to allow for ease of intimacy. That smacks to me too much of having one&#039;s cake and eating it too. At least when it comes to &#039;innate&#039; superpowered people like Leather. Someone like Freya -- who is this setting&#039;s answer to both Thor and Wonder Woman -- might have better luck because of the more magical basis of her physical prowess (take that any way you like).

In particular, orgasm is troublesome because certain muscular responses are either involuntary or can easily be overcompensated for. Heck, it&#039;s not that unusual for perfectly normal partners to accidentally bruise each other.

This doesn&#039;t make you wrong, by any stretch. But it makes for some insight into my worldbuilding process -- and further insight into Leather herself. After all, her rule &lt;em&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; &quot;no non-powered sexual partners.&quot; It&#039;s &quot;no one who isn&#039;t a supervillain or superhero.&quot; Not only are there a number of completely nonpowered heroes and villains she&#039;s willing to spend time with (wink wink, nudge nudge), but nowhere near all &lt;em&gt;powered&lt;/em&gt; heroes and villains have enhanced endurance or durability.

Which begs the question -- how much of this is sheerly practical (and there&#039;s no doubt but that there&#039;s a major question of practicality), and how much of this is psychological?

And how does it relate to what I think might be one of the more telling statements Leather has made to date:

&lt;blockquote&gt;And then I decided to save the world, and then I decided to enjoy the world instead.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For my money, this statement&#039;s the money shot of the interview. But others may disagree. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really pedantic, no &#8212; it&#8217;s interesting and germane. ;)</p>
<p>Really, this comes back to worldbuilding exercises. When one creates any kind of science fiction or fantasy world &#8212; and superheroes are something of a subsection of both &#8212; one must work out the implications and ramifications of that world. Since you&#8217;re already violating the laws of nature (among other things, someone as slight as Leather couldn&#8217;t get the leverage she needed to use her superstrong muscles in quite the way she is, if we were going to try to be Hard SF about it), you need to decide what the limits are &#8212; and what the prices are.</p>
<p>There has to be a price. Without a price, the world becomes boring. All powerful magi make for dull high fantasy, for example. And instantaneous universe wide transportation and communication has the net effect of taking the universe and turning it into an extension of the New Jersey turnpike.</p>
<p>In the case of Justice Wing, I straddle the fence between realistic interpretations of superpowers and more four-colorish interpretations. I don&#8217;t have Leather eating constantly to fuel her greater physical exertions (though I nodded to the need for fuel back when we first met her and Chapman discovered she had tons of complex carbs in her fridge) and I let Leather&#8217;s superhuman grace let her counterbalance the places where her strength would fail due to momentum and inertia.</p>
<p>In the case of her musculature, I&#8217;m giving vent to one of my pet peeves. I <em>don&#8217;t</em> like the &#8216;conditional super strength&#8217; thing to allow for ease of intimacy. That smacks to me too much of having one&#8217;s cake and eating it too. At least when it comes to &#8216;innate&#8217; superpowered people like Leather. Someone like Freya &#8212; who is this setting&#8217;s answer to both Thor and Wonder Woman &#8212; might have better luck because of the more magical basis of her physical prowess (take that any way you like).</p>
<p>In particular, orgasm is troublesome because certain muscular responses are either involuntary or can easily be overcompensated for. Heck, it&#8217;s not that unusual for perfectly normal partners to accidentally bruise each other.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t make you wrong, by any stretch. But it makes for some insight into my worldbuilding process &#8212; and further insight into Leather herself. After all, her rule <em>isn&#8217;t</em> &#8220;no non-powered sexual partners.&#8221; It&#8217;s &#8220;no one who isn&#8217;t a supervillain or superhero.&#8221; Not only are there a number of completely nonpowered heroes and villains she&#8217;s willing to spend time with (wink wink, nudge nudge), but nowhere near all <em>powered</em> heroes and villains have enhanced endurance or durability.</p>
<p>Which begs the question &#8212; how much of this is sheerly practical (and there&#8217;s no doubt but that there&#8217;s a major question of practicality), and how much of this is psychological?</p>
<p>And how does it relate to what I think might be one of the more telling statements Leather has made to date:</p>
<blockquote><p>And then I decided to save the world, and then I decided to enjoy the world instead.</p></blockquote>
<p>For my money, this statement&#8217;s the money shot of the interview. But others may disagree. :)</p>
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		<title>By: RHJunior</title>
		<link>http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/08/07/interviewing-leather-part-seven/#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>RHJunior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the ways &quot;that particular problem&quot; was covered by other writers is that certain states--- like a state of heightened arousal--- reduced the physical strength of the superhuman. 

Even IRL, the strength of one&#039;s muscles isn&#039;t used 100%... basically because muscular activity, especially strenuous activity, causes damage (microscopic tears) to the tissues. (That&#039;s part of what that burning sensation in your muscles is.) That microtearing is what stimulates muscle growth, as well.... but were you to use your muscles at their true full power, you&#039;d be almost completely immobilized afterwards, and reduced to a state of virtual helplessness for a considerable time afterwards. Consequently there&#039;s a certain amount of blocking of the neural signals to prevent overcontraction and damage.

Other variations are that &quot;super strength&quot; requires a voluntary and conscious effort to activate and sustain. So normal activities, and especially involuntary contractions (such as in orgasm) aren&#039;t &quot;super strength.&quot;
Or, that only voluntary muscles are fully super strong....

Pedantic, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the ways &#8220;that particular problem&#8221; was covered by other writers is that certain states&#8212; like a state of heightened arousal&#8212; reduced the physical strength of the superhuman. </p>
<p>Even IRL, the strength of one&#8217;s muscles isn&#8217;t used 100%&#8230; basically because muscular activity, especially strenuous activity, causes damage (microscopic tears) to the tissues. (That&#8217;s part of what that burning sensation in your muscles is.) That microtearing is what stimulates muscle growth, as well&#8230;. but were you to use your muscles at their true full power, you&#8217;d be almost completely immobilized afterwards, and reduced to a state of virtual helplessness for a considerable time afterwards. Consequently there&#8217;s a certain amount of blocking of the neural signals to prevent overcontraction and damage.</p>
<p>Other variations are that &#8220;super strength&#8221; requires a voluntary and conscious effort to activate and sustain. So normal activities, and especially involuntary contractions (such as in orgasm) aren&#8217;t &#8220;super strength.&#8221;<br />
Or, that only voluntary muscles are fully super strong&#8230;.</p>
<p>Pedantic, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Kneefers</title>
		<link>http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/08/07/interviewing-leather-part-seven/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>Kneefers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was gonna mention the Niven story, it did remind me of that.
And I&#039;m definitely liking this series. I love superheroes anyway, and this is a cool take on the genre. I would ask for a happy ending for Leather, but that&#039;s probably too much to hope for, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was gonna mention the Niven story, it did remind me of that.<br />
And I&#8217;m definitely liking this series. I love superheroes anyway, and this is a cool take on the genre. I would ask for a happy ending for Leather, but that&#8217;s probably too much to hope for, right?</p>
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		<title>By: FuzzyBoots</title>
		<link>http://banter-latte.annotations.com/2007/08/07/interviewing-leather-part-seven/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>FuzzyBoots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 00:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minor tensing issue: &quot;She began probing his ribs with practiced fingers.&quot; You switched from first to third-person.

Otherwise, interesting. Reminds me of the old Man of Steel; Woman of Kleenex short story by Niven. I&#039;m feeling a lot of sympathy for Leather right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minor tensing issue: &#8220;She began probing his ribs with practiced fingers.&#8221; You switched from first to third-person.</p>
<p>Otherwise, interesting. Reminds me of the old Man of Steel; Woman of Kleenex short story by Niven. I&#8217;m feeling a lot of sympathy for Leather right now.</p>
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